HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 07-25-2022911 COMMUNICATIONS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE July 25, 2022
At a Regular Meeting of the 911 Communications Oversight Committee on Monday, July 25,
2022, at 1:30 p.m., in the Commission Chambers of City Hall located at 300 South 5th Street the
following Committee members were present: Commissioner Carol Gault, Commissioner Eddie
Jones, Jewel Jones, and Dr. Irvin Smith (4). Chairperson Kauffeld was absent (1). Dr. Irvin
Smith presided as Chairperson.
City Clerk Lindsay Parish took the minutes of the meeting.
APPROVE MINUTES
Jewell Jones offered motion, seconded by Commissioner Gault to adopt the Minutes of July
11, 2022. All in favor.
Q & A WITH BRANDON MARSHALL – KSP NETWORK
Brandon Marshall with the Kentucky State Police Communications Branch was invited to speak
to the Committee. Mr. Marshall oversees the Commonwealth statewide trunk system and has
been with KSP since 1997. Mr. Marshall goes to many city and county held meetings to talk
about what KSP is doing related to 911 and to talk about potential partnerships. Mr. Marshall
made note that it is not mandatory for the City and County to join KSP to be part of the statewide
system, but there are some partnership opportunities.
In relation to Paducah/McCracken County joining the Statewide system, Mr. Marshall said,
“You are welcome to join, but you don’t have to, and I don’t think you should.” He made note
McCracken County is in a good position with 911 as far as the options available to the City and
County. Many cities do not have the same opportunities due to a lack of funding, aging
infrastructure, lack of expertise on staff and no ability to hire a consultant to acquire that
expertise. Paducah/McCracken is in an advantageous position in that Federal Engineering is
consulting on the project.
He noted that partnering with KSP could potentially save money on the initial cost directly from
Paducah/McCracken County, but that funding is ultimately going to come from the tax base
either way. Mr. Marshall offered the expertise of KSP as the project moves forward, regardless
of whether the choice is made to join KSP. Mr. Marshall gave the following input to the
committee:
Know what the total cost of ownership. Understand hidden costs such as end user
licensing and software upgrade agreements.
Make sure the system is scalable and that money is set aside for equipment upgrades in
the future.
Understand the needs of the users. The City and the State may have different needs in
that the State is primarily concerned with coverage in and around their vehicles, whereas,
the City may be more concerned about firefighters or police officers inside of a building.
Different levels of coverage are needed based on what is needed by the first responders
who are using the system.
The Committee asked Mr. Marshall the following questions:
What is the largest county that has partnered with KSP to date?
Only one county has partnered with KSP to date which is Simpson County/Franklin
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City. Simpson County utilized ARPA funding to build a tower and are partnering with
KSP for the core.
When will KSP be ready to have Cities/Counties begin using the KSP system?
Mr. Marshall’s first priority is to have KSP online and ensure that the current users have
their needs met. Paducah/McCracken County cannot utilize the system currently,
because it is not online. The timetable on the tower construction was too ambitious and
the project is 3 years behind where Mr. Marshall would like it to be. He believes that
Post 1 and Post 2 will be online by the end of 2022.
What are the synergy opportunities of the City and County partnering with KSP?
Increasing the KSP Footprint – a benefit for KSP would be that they would have
additional towers to increase the footprint of the entire KSP system.
Interoperability - Partnership would mean that the City/County would have an option of
a few different radios that would work with State radios and allow them to communicate.
Cores – KSP has 2 cores that have 200 miles of separation. This separation is good in
case of disaster or attack. KSP would maintain the cores.
Is there a limitation on the frequencies that could be used?
There is a limited amount of radio spectrum, and some of those have been allocated to
McCracken Co. Even though there is a limited amount, there are enough for the
City/County to have a frequency independent of KSP. Channels are allocated based on
population.
If the City/County partners with KSP, what changes for the people who call into 911?
KSP currently provides dispatches for Simpson County. As long as Paducah/McCracken
County continues to take 911 calls, nothing significant changes. KSP does not want to
perform dispatching services. KRS requires that counties be responsible for taking 911
calls and the State does not want to handle 911 Call Centers unless there is no other
option.
If Post 1 & Post 2 come online at the end of 2022, when could McCracken partner
with KSP?
Once online, the City/County could begin checking coverage, but could not immediately
come online and be dependent on the system. The system would need to be fully vetted
before that would be allowed.
Would it be unreasonable to assume that we could have a system up and running
within one year?
This depends on many factors such as whether all the sites have been picked, whether
those sites are already purchased/owned, etc.
If a partnership was initiated with KSP, what is the process around adding/removing a
radio? What is KSP staffing like and would adding/removing radios have lag time?
KSP has 22 employees across the state. There would not be a significant lag time. Radios
have to be programmed and assigned an ID before they are activated. Changes could
take 24 hours.
Is it possible to create an RFP that would have an Option A for Paducah/McCracken
County to build its own system and an Option B to partner with KSP?
Mr. Marshall believes that in order to do this, 2 RFPs may be needed. If
Paducah/McCracken County wants to partner with the State, then Motorola would be the
only option for the equipment, but not necessarily the only option for the radios.
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If we work with KSP, would we need an RFP for towers and an RFP for radios?
Possibly, depending on the type of radios desired. Radios can also be purchased off of
the State Procurement Master Agreement or NASPO (National Purchasing Master
Agreement).
UPDATE ON RFP
Police Chief Brian Laird gave an update on the RFP. He spoke with Federal Engineering after
last meeting and asked them to include language around options (KSP model). Federal
Engineering is working on the updates and anticipate having a draft within the next few weeks.
Commissioner Eddie Jones asked about obtaining a copy of the Georgetown/Scott County RFP
as a reference.
REVIEW DRAFT OF 911 PROPOSAL
Commissioner Carol Gault & Commissioner Eddie Jones met to discuss a draft 911 proposal that
includes the following elements:
Set up a separate agency governed by a 5-member board of directors. The draft does not
have any City or County Commissioners serving on the board
Incorporate a 2-teir funding mechanism including parcel fee & water meter fee with an
amount still to be determined
The draft was created with the Joint Sewer Agency as an example
Commissioner Gault & Commissioner Jones asked the committee to review and provide
feedback.
Mayor Bray offered comments that he believes it is important for the committee to have an
objective view about the way this project moves forward. Elected officials see issues with a
specific lens and it is important to have the perspectives of people who are not elected officials.
Recommendations from the committee should be very objective and non-political.
VENDOR DISCUSSION
Commissioner Eddie Jones would like to receive additional information from potential vendors
in order to know what mistakes they have seen in other communities that would result in them
not responding to the RFP. He would like vendors to be invited to committee meetings and
allowed a certain amount of time to talk to the committee.
The committee discussed how they would know who to invite and what amount of time would
need to be dedicated to hearing from all potential vendors.
Commissioner Eddie Jones has additional questions about how the RFP will be written related to
reliability and DAQ requirements. The committee agreed that these specifics can be discussed
after the committee receives the first draft of the RFP for review. Commissioner Eddie Jones
would like to have ample time to review the RFP and send it to potential vendors before it is
finalized.
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ADJOURN
Mr. Jewell Jones offered motion, seconded by Commissioner Eddie Jones to adjourn the
meeting. All in favor.
TIME ADJOURNED: 2:59 p.m.
ADOPTED: August 22, 2022